1465: Elder Holland – Losing Control Over Mormon LGBTQ Support at BYU

As a born in the covenant Mormon and a prepper and a conservative and a long time listener of Mormon stories., I find it very interesting that because the church is defined by its living a commandment based orthodoxy and strict honor code outside of BYU ,based upon longstanding jewdaeo-Christian,. Tradition .that it is seen as the enemy ,when it tries to stand up for those things . Do es the gay community have to blame every one of its problems on institutions that teach these values? What happens when the gay community eventually wins this fight which it will . I am sure it will be ok for the newly empowered community to not stop until all endocrinated conservatives are rounded up publicly condemned and burned at the stake because they may come back and use their free speech to create this hate and deviciveness again to inflict this curse of pain and suffering on the poor lgbt community. The lgbt/ liberal community is its own worst enemy when it chooses to use its newly found strength to demonize the thought process of millions of traditional Mormon people it is unlikely that the current q-15 will last as a majority for 15 more years age intself will destroy this institution but the gay community needs to show some compassion and understanding and some tolerance and love out of strength in its own cause . And everyone needs to ask themselves is it ok to have people in this world who think differently than you do ?BYU is a private college it is defined by its rules it is caged by its intolerance and it’s conservative nature change from the inside is what is expected and it is happening but what is it going to be replaced with? Do you really want BYU to look like San Francisco? Will you please stop with this idea that all will be ok when all conservative thought is destroyed and all the Bo Gritz’s of the world are silenced .that the world will somehow be better ?. The lgbt community will eventually win this fight at BYU it’s inevitable. But I can guarantee that the left will not allow a concervative voice to survive its fear based and fear is and always will be the down fall of human kind .where is the balance? Mr Holland is an old man he will be replaced by another old man .in the history of the world nothing has changed, as fast as the last 180 years. Some has been good some has been very bad . But it is obvious that the next 50 years will be ruled by the left and the l g b t community will have a seat at the table the traditional l d s church will not but that will not solve the problems and when you look at Portland and Seattle basically the California coastal cities that is what we have for government and tolerance . When we are completely divided we will be overrun by a Joseph smith like character who will come up with some cockamamie idea like secret polygamy council of fifty, make me a king and dictator., Philosophy and yes the gayest of gays will be included and welcome. Just like the blacks were in early Mormonism . No John won’t allow this to be printed or posted he’s afraid free speech will cause more suicidal ideation . (But as is written truth is reason truth eternal tells me I’ve a mother there) historical data tells me that the further left you go the more more devastating the genicide will be . Come on gay community pick it up formulate your own university’s good hell you have the whole of California. Why the heck is it necessary to beat up old tired Jeff Holland it’s like watching mike Tyson beat up an old dude on the street leave BYU alone stop blaming your problems on others religious stances . Remember opposition in all things . Get the big picture in view visit a homeless community in the Bay Area listen to some Jackson Browne. Look at what the left is offering us as conservatives you are now the majority and you don’t even know it in your rage you can’t stop and see the damage that is being done. John it’s been a good long run at Mormon stories and you have had me in your corner most of the time but I spent a good part of the winter driving throughout California the left will destroy itself. And they will demonize the right for their demise. Live and let live . The church isn’t the problem. A free ride always comes with a price .and no the church is not and never has been completely true tolerance runs both ways and baby’s are weaned because a mother needs her nipples in tact for her next child not out of hate for the child she is raising. Grow up move on be brave enough to listen to both sides attack the drug culture attack the give away program s. Be appreciative of the barricades of heaven where you are from.( Thanks Jackson) most of all let Jeff and Niel, Henry and Dallin die in peace. After all in the next life we all may end up living on one of their planet s as a thirteen year old bride to one of their most revered prophets. Lives without end. (Wow what a concept) you and radio free and bill need a joint podcast on that idea And they say there is no hell . Ask and ye shall receive . Well you got it