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John Dehlin is joined by Natasha Helfer and Janae Thompson to discuss and react to Kevin Franke’s second police interview in the controversial child ab*se case surrounding his former wife, Ruby Franke, and their LDS therapist, Jodi Hildebrandt.

Natasha & John’s Faith Transitions Course for Therapists

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  1. Jay Larsen May 11, 2024 at 3:19 am - Reply

    The unpaid, untrained staff also circles back to the religious culture. Bishops not trained educated to do pastoral care of people.

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