John Dehlin is joined by Natasha Helfer and Janae Thompson to discuss and react to Kevin Franke’s second police interview in the controversial child ab*se case surrounding his former wife, Ruby Franke, and their LDS therapist, Jodi Hildebrandt.
Natasha & John’s Faith Transitions Course for Therapists
Janae Thompson’s The King of Random (youtube.com)
Show Notes:
- Learnreligiontherapy.com
- Adam Paul Steed – Hidden True Crime
- The King of Random – YouTube
- Symmetry Counseling (SymCounseling)
- Matthew 5:28-28
- Alma 39:3, 5
- Doctrine and Covenants 129
- Janae Thompson – YouTube
- Janae Thompson – Instagram
- How Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt fit — and don’t fit — within LDS norms
- Visions of Glory: One Man’s Astonishing Account of the Last Days: John Pontius
- Jeremy R. Jaggi (churchofjesuschrist.org)
- Bradley R. Wilcox (churchofjesuschrist.org)
- Opposition in All Things (churchofjesuschrist.org)
- My Recovery Room (churchofjesuschrist.org)
- New Evidence (JOURNALS!) Released In The 8 Passengers & Jodi Hildebrandt Case (youtube.com)
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- 1865: Jodi Hildebrandt Ruined My Mormon Marriage – Brian Tibbets
- 1426: Natasha Helfer Excommunication Debrief
- 1893: Creating Lasting Sexual Connections – Emily Nagoski’s Come Together
- 1862: Mormon Bishops Discuss Their Experiences
- 1744: Recovering after Mormonism – Dr. Steven Hassan
- 1743: Joining and Leaving the Moonies / Unification Church – Cult Expert Dr. Steven Hassan
- 1805: 8 Passengers Ruby Franke and “Therapist” Jodi Hildebrandt Arrested – The Mormon Angle
- 1807: The “Therapist” that Ruined 8 Passengers – Experts React
- 1808: Niece of 8 Passengers’ Mormon “Therapist” Jodi Hildebrandt Speaks Out – Jessi Hildebrandt
- 1443-1447: Recovering Agency – Examining Mormon Mind Control w/ Luna Lindsey Corbden
- 1865: Jodi Hildebrandt Ruined My Mormon Marriage – Brian Tibbets
- 1826: Mentor to Jodi Hildebrandt, Tim Ballard, Chad Daybell, Lori Vallow – Thom Harrison
- 1487-1488: The Mormon Influences on Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow
- 1543: Alpine Utah Mormon Youth Rescue with Brad Wilcox
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