Today we sit down with ex-Scientologist and Youtuber Chris Shelton to discuss a brief history of Scientology – with a focus on parallels between Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard and Mormon church founder Joseph Smith.

This interview is the first in a series of 4 interviews with Chris as we will follow the chronological history of Scientology and draw parallels between the founding of both churches, and draw comparisons between their modern-day presences.


All of our interviews with Chris may be found here:


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Part 3:

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  1. Tracy Austin October 17, 2019 at 7:35 pm - Reply

    Just wow, incredible podcast. Chris is a master historian.

  2. Cory Jorgensen October 25, 2019 at 8:44 pm - Reply

    I LOVE this! These series where you explore other religions/cults are just fascinating. Also, I happen to have just read Leah Remini’s book, so very timely for me.

  3. Cory Jorgensen October 26, 2019 at 10:30 am - Reply

    Interesting to note that “markab” means “boat” in Arabic. Maybe just a coincidence.

  4. Tracy Arnold October 26, 2019 at 1:03 pm - Reply

    This was so eye opening to hear all of the parallels between Joseph Smith and L. Ron Hubbard and see the patterns between these two religions. I really enjoyed this podcast. Keep doing what you do John! You are making a big positive difference in so many people’s lives including mine and for that I thank you.

  5. Leo November 12, 2019 at 10:11 am - Reply

    Great podcast. I’ve been following Chris for about 2 years now and he’s a walking Scientology Encyclopedia. He knows everything there is to know.

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