In this powerful continuation of our interview with Ben and Justine, we explore their raw and honest journey from deep devotion in the LDS Church to personal awakening, heartbreak, and healing.

They share how their relationship grew during Justine’s school years, navigating early marriage, financial and gender-role challenges, and the burden of trying to live up to faith-based ideals. From motherhood identity struggles to confronting doctrinal issues and discovering their voices during a faith crisis, this episode is full of vulnerable, eye-opening moments.

Highlights include:

• Gender roles & pressure in Mormonism
• The cost of silence during a faith crisis
• The CES Letter, LDS Discussions & uncovering hard truths
• Healing from betrayal, rebuilding marriage & reconnecting with family
• Their plea for empathy from believing members

Whether you’re in faith, out of faith, or somewhere in between—this is a story about agency, partnership, and finding truth together.