1774: Daughters of Ensign Peak Executive Speak Out – Pt. 1 – Rylee Porter

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Discover Rylee and JoCee Porter’s challenges in a life intertwined with the LDS church, where their father served as an Ensign Peak Advisor, part of the Mormon Church’s controversial investment company. In this episode, Rylee and Jocee recall their experiences as cultural minorities while their father worked on Wall Street and the cultural disparities they encountered upon moving to Utah, where they struggled with bullying and the insidious nature of Utah Mormonism. Uncover the pivotal moments that led Rylee to question the validity of the church’s truth claims and moral credibility, and eventually make the courageous decision to break free from the church at the cost of her family relationships. Get ready for an eye-opening conversation that delves into the complexities of faith, personal integrity, and the power of one’s own principles.

1775: Daughters of Mormon Church’s Ensign Peak Executive Speak Out – Pt. 2 – JoCee Porter

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We continue delving into the challenges faced by sisters JoCee and Rylee Porter, daughters of an Advisor to Ensign Peak, the controversial Mormon investment company. JoCee’s story takes center-stage in this episode as she recalls feeling the need to be her family’s “Nephi”, (golden child) as both a reaction to the turmoil caused by Rylee’s perceived rebelliousness and an intense desire to feel her father’s love and attention. However, the more she achieves, the more she feels the constriction of Mormon gender roles. JoCee describes her journey into feminism, self-determination, self-discovery, and reconciliation with her sister Rylee just as the whistleblower leaks about Ensign Peak were coming to light…

1776: Daughters of Ensign Peak Executive Speak Out – Pt. 3 – Rylee and JoCee Porter

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Join us as the two daughters of a Mormon Church’s Ensign Peak executive unravel the controversies, corruption, and conscience surrounding the LDS Church’s investment firm and its impact on the Mormon Church. Rylee and JoCee Porter share their initial doubts and concerns, discussing the morality of non-profits acting as for-profit entities and their reactions to David Nielsen’s whistleblowing. We discuss the opulent Mormon temples in impoverished areas, the staggering $100 billion figure, and the ethical use of funds. Rylee and Jocee talk about their conversations with family members about Ensign Peak’s breaking of laws and the troubling implications of church leaders’ involvement. Join us for an enlightening conversation that encourages critical thinking about the complexities surrounding Ensign Peak, raising questions about ethics, responsibility, and societal impact.

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  1. Clark June 16, 2023 at 8:28 am - Reply

    The Church loses more of it’s best and brightest
    Thank you both for your bravery

  2. Jose June 17, 2023 at 9:11 am - Reply

    Let me get this straight. LDS Church becoming trillion dollar, mostly tax exempt, Corporation that is currently declining in membership, with no financial accountability whatsoever. This sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen. With no financial transparency required, whats to stop those at the top from siphoning-off a million here and a million there. Pyramid or Ponzi scheme? The is a recipe for financial scandals waiting to happen on a global scale.

  3. Kelly Swinney June 24, 2023 at 2:46 pm - Reply

    Really enjoy Mormon Stories. As an ex-JW, the stories are helping me sort out some issues I realize still concern me emotionally. Thank you for the “safe” space.

    • Maven June 26, 2023 at 1:09 pm - Reply

      Glad to be of help Kelly! We interviewed an ex-JW couple. Did you see that one?

  4. Kelly Swinney June 24, 2023 at 2:47 pm - Reply

    Very interesting.

  5. Clark June 27, 2023 at 4:15 pm - Reply

    Hi Maven,
    This is off subject,
    but could the cc
    closed captions
    have a delay?
    It’s nearly impossible to catch something that I missed with them being as instantaneous as they are now.
    Or have two categories of cc

    Love MS’s too pieces

    • Maven June 27, 2023 at 5:19 pm - Reply

      Hi Clark, CC is something done by youtube so I don’t have control over it. I do believe they should be there after the premiere if not during. I’m sorry I don’t know more

  6. Dina June 27, 2023 at 11:31 pm - Reply

    I grew up in Minneapolis in the 80’s and this episode was amazingly relatable! There’s a wealthy ward/area in most large cities I’m guessing. A friend of mine had the same experience outside DC. Being the only family or one of a few in high school, Utah being “Mecca” where everyone went for summer vacation, the closeness of the stalwart families, and even the part where the wealthier ward helps out at the branches (we had a Laos branch where everyone served). It’s the first time I’ve really felt like someone captured the experience of growing up in the “mission field.” Thanks so much for sharing your story!

  7. Scott June 28, 2023 at 9:05 am - Reply

    Great podcast, as always, and congrats JoCee and Ryleee Porter. There were numerous references made in the podcast as to how magnanimous their father has been in not withholding his love and support for their speaking out. I’m thinking it’s their father who should be most concerned about his daughters withholding their love and support from him because of his involvement and support of such a crooked organization. Lucky for him, both are intelligent and insightful women who understand the difficult position he finds himself in.

  8. Thee old man with no see July 4, 2023 at 6:56 am - Reply

    I really enjoyed hearing this podcast , as a lifetime member of the church and a father of two very independent and progressive daughters, who are still somewhat active in order to keep their families together, I see some similarities .and yet as a dad who spent their younger years working in the young men’s program I really missed out on many family moments because I was caught up in building the kingdom, now my relationship is quite strained as I somehow try to reconcile what I thought was right with the realization of just how decisive the wealthy church is. If you are raised in the church you are just too busy to stop and take a breath and analyze the breach between the wealthy members and the worker bees who actually keep it going . I have seen firsthand families literally spend their last dollars keeping a child on a mission while members of leadership buy land to create sacred ground camps.and I have watched stalwart families evaporate from activity as their children come home from missionary service and immediately go into inactivity. It’s both heartbreaking and refreshing. The church really is in the middle of its fourth turning and apologetics’s are not doing the job that it takes to keep this current generation from making their own decisions and breaking the eggs and making their own kind of omelette out of what is left.bishops set the agenda and the tempo of a ward they also hold the preverbial keys to the arronic priesthood and still to this day their is little being done to retain these young women who will rear the next generation of missionaries . Leadership requires accountability and this continued , never ending guilt driven time bomb is coming close to imploding. Maybe it has already. I truly love the saints and if the meek inherit the earth the wealthy will surely inherit the celestial kingdom, but who the hell will take out their trash and polish their gilded streets . It’s much too late for an old guy like myself to go back and fix the carnage this has created in my own family. Yet I hope we will do our very best to understand how just a little sunlight can decontaminate even the worst stains on our perspectives. Good luck you two . Love you parents, look at your upbringing as a very expensive education, and practice kindness and understanding, you will be alright. I promise!!

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