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  1. Stephanie, did you ever talk to your youth bishop about the allegation he made to your father? Because here’s what I heard: your father used fear to alienate you from your mother. When you reached out to another trusted adult (the Bishop) to confide in him about your father’s abusive, controlling behavior, your father once again took steps to scare you away from your bishop too.

    TLDR; I think it is quite possible that your father intentionally lied about the nature of the concerns that the Bishop raised with him so that you wouldn’t trust or go back to the bishop.

  2. Does Matt accuse Spencer Palmer of abusing him? Or his other grandpa? The synopsis seems to imply that it is Spencer Palmer. But if it Spencer Palmer why wouldn’t the synopsis just say that plainly?

  3. I am wondering if there are pictures online of Matt Purcell’s grandpa so I can see if I am remembering the same man that Matt resembles so closely from my trips to the temples starting on Halloween 🎃 1982.

  4. A question to John and Cara firstI grew up on Apple Blossom Lane, a contnuation of Murray Holladay Road. I am wondering how close my childhood home is to you now.

    I am also wondering if there are pictures online of Matt Purcell’s grandpa so I can see if I am remembering the same man that Matt resembles so closely from my trips to the temples starting on Halloween 🎃 1982.

  5. David Broadbesnt and his father were both OBGYN. I worked in labor and delivery at utah Valley Hospital. He was a creep. His dad was worse. He was cruel and unkind to his patient. His dads favorite thing to say was “well it was fun getting it in but not so fun getting it right”. As far as rectal exams. Some doctors perform them. But they talk to the patient and are he take time to talk to the patient first about it. I’m so sorry.

    Mom of 8

  6. Thank you to Stephanie and Matt. They are truly thoughtful, admirable, and courageous. Both are so articulate and very interesting. What great people! It was an outstanding podcast.

  7. I kinda like the long interviews. I cleaned my house, did laundry and organized a few messes while listening. As a survivor of childhood trauma, i know it takes a lot of guts to come forward with this stuff. Some people won’t want to believe it, some will have guilt they didn’t know, and you will be supported by lots of people who have been through similar trauma!
    Thank you for sharing your stories. Your examples will help others to come forward and get the help and support they need to get through. All the guilt thats piled on in the name of Savior! To quote a fave movie line, “if Jesus came back now and saw what was happening in his name, He would never stop throwing up” take care!

  8. This is my first interview seeing Cara go solo. You did so good, girl! I didn’t sense any nerves, and I thought it was beautifully well done.

    I think you found your footing!

  9. I’m curious which Holland talk/video was referenced as supporting the CES Letter for helping Stephanie’s friend step back? GREAT hosting of the interview Carah! Thx,

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