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  1. Thank you for sharing this heartbreaking experience. I am so sorry your entire family has been hurt by the organization you lovingly dedicated your lives, service, family, and $ to. I believe the facebook question Jared received: “Are you saying the church is extorting $ from its members re the requirement to pay tithing in order to get to heaven?” and his response: “Yes, a case can be made for the church extorting $ from its members.,” hit a nerve with the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Disfellowshipment, rather than excommunication, may be a tactic to try and neutralize this very real danger to the finances of the Corporation.

    1. Love it! Can’t participate in any way, as an ex-bishop mind you, but continue giving us your cash/dues.
      My biggest regret as a missionary was the pressure I placed on folk to pay their tithing as we worked with families living below the bread line.
      Most of these families were taking food out of their children’s mouths to live the “Higher Law”

      Like any other flourishing American business, all about the Benjamins!

    2. I don’t believe that anyone so disfellowshipped would continue to pay tithing (or indeed start repaying after having not paid while entering into apostasy). Nor do I believe that the Church would be so foolish as to think anyone would pay tithing in such a case.

      It’s more likely that the Church has simply opted to disfellowship rather than excommunicate in these high profile cases to soften the impact to their public image. They know the apostate member is lost to them, but the can then say to the world “we didn’t fire them, they resigned”.

  2. I continue to be surprised at the number of members who’ve been disfellowshipped and excommunicated who are willing to do whatever they’re asked to do to be admitted back into the tribe and regain the promise of a place in Mormon heaven with their family, and this includes continuing to pay tithing.

    I would like to see a class action against The Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints – by members who’ve been excommunicated, asking for their tithing money back. I doubt those who’ve been disfellowshipped or who resign would be eligible to participate.

  3. Thank you so much for sharing! I really appreciated hearing the statements that were read. They are very meaningful. I couldn’t help but think that maybe someone should curate a book of statements that are read at these church courts or some type of audio exhibit. It would be very powerful.

  4. What a super, strong couple. Amazing, thanks to all for sharing.

    How generous and non judgmental of Jared towards the high council “I have no hard feelings… great men”. You’ve both shown unconditional love through this whole time, a very evident virtue of not just the Lusks but others that have had to endure the same thing.

    Jared’s points are SO valid – the Culture of covenants above unconditional love. That’s the reality. Surely that stems from freemasonry, certainly Sis Lusk in a room full of men is a throwback to early days that still exist in the church.

    Those gospel topic essays and the way the church deals with truth is a timebomb. The Lusks will be one of hundreds or thousands that will go the same road.

    Movements like Mormonstories are definitely having an effect on the church. So inconsistent.

    I’m a lifelong member of the church with 6 happy children and a super wife. Grew up in Australia, stuck in Utah now. I feel like there’s no one to discuss truth with so this is a good place. I am ‘active’ which means I can sit in sacrament and be thinking about Socrates, Plato, etc, go to the temple and be wondering about freemasonry, and grudgingly pay tithing when I’d really like to find a genuine charity that supports widows and the fatherless in a developing country. But hey I’m ‘Active’ – and trying not to spiritually rot like 1/2 the members. ‘Active’ : easy to manage from lds leadership point of view.

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