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  1. My main purpose to leave a comment is as reminder to myself that I already listened in on this episode.
    Otherwise I make a mistake of listening again.

  2. Thank you, John and Dan for this. Particularly interesting to me was Joseph Smith’s being intolerant of religious controversy, that that was a loss of the spirit in his mind. You stated, Dan, that, where some people would think that controversy is vibrant and that debate is a good thing, Joseph Smith couldn’t stand conflict and wanted to stop it. And today, Mormons do not like it if you bring up anything that doesn’t support a positive direction for the Church; they will cut you off, and that is because they can’t tolerate religious controversy. I remember my father was the same way. He would not allow any kind of debate or even discussion about the Church (or anything); he would say that contention (as he called it) was of the devil. So I grew up in a home where we had no discussion, no debate, really no conversation at all about religion; the only thing that was allowed was my father’s preaching, which was ad nauseam. You also said that Joseph Smith couldn’t stand it if somebody criticized him. My father was the same. Now, it’s amazing and interesting to me how much like Joseph Smith Mormons are even today.

    I really appreciate all of the podcasts with Dan Vogel. I have listened to all of them, and now have a much better understanding of Joseph Smith. Thanks to you both. These have been great!

    1. Lois, thank you for your comments and for listening. I think your story is very much like most Mormon families. In a healthy family everyone is allowed to be authentic. I know what it’s like to be judged by a parent who only sees the world through a warped system of rules and expectations. Consequently, my father never knew me, and I never knew him because he was too busy trying to play the role of a patriarch while at the same time being wracked with guilt for his obvious inability to live up to that ideal himself.

  3. Thank you so much for these discussions. My husband and I both get so much from listening to Mormon Stories, and your interviews with Dan Vogel in particular.

  4. Nice interviews as expected from Mormon Stories.I’m not a mormon, I am 24 years old, from Brazil and i found mormon history very interesting and since 2016 i’ve been reading several books.Really loved Dan Vogel on Mormon Stories.

  5. Interesting story and perspective. I am a believer and, after hearing these episodes, had some good new perspectives (I like to keep an open mind and hear all possible angles). In fact, I decided to re-read the Book of Mormon from start to finish after finishing these episodes, with a more thoughtful and critical approach of what I’m reading (constantly asking myself, “could Joseph really have done this, as Dan suggests”). Halfway through Alma, I still believe in the Book of Mormon as inspired scripture, historically accurate. I would be very curious to hear Dan’s (and/or others’) perspective on Tad Callister’s book “A Case For the Book of Mormon”, which I also just finished. Have enjoyed hearing Bro. Callister make the rounds on some other podcasts recently.

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