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  1. You have opened a can of worms John. I respect your efforts but this is very difficult subject.

    I lived through this horror personally in the late 80’s early 90’s as a spouse of someone who believed totally in her satanic abuse. I believed her for the first year of her “therapy” and even participated in group therapy, but in the end, her recovered memories were so out there that I started to doubt and our family split up with much pain and heart ache. Not only did she feel violated and victimized, so did I as our relationship completely disintegrated. Her recovered memories were horrific which included church and family members in her childhood. Her therapist was an active member using childhood regression techniques to recover memory. I’ve read many books for many years looking for answers and I see both sides. I too went to my own therapy to help with our separation and later divorce. I don’t see a solution as proof is nearly impossible with recovered memories. It is a very sad and frustrating situation.

  2. This is as incredible as alien abduction. However those that experience these things know that there is some element of truth. The evil and conspiring forces in the world are comfortable knowing that their dark acts are so outrageously unbelievable that they are safe and secure in the darkness.

  3. John
    I get the impression that you don’t believe Martha Beck or rather you can’t bring yourself to believe her over the man Hugh Nibley. Had you actually read her book “Leaving the Saints” you would get t her account. I think her account by her own hand is very honest and believable.

    This is the first that I’ve had issue with your view, otherwise I do feel like you are doing a huge HUGE service to faith transition it’s and truth at large. I thank you for that.

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      NOONE – I would never, ever want to tell a victim that their abuse didn’t happen.

      But I am an opponent of “Recovered Memory” and the work of folks like Barbara Snow.

      Please read the book “Remembering Satan” to understand my position.

      But I would never want to stretch this view to ever tell a victim that their abuse didn’t happen, because there’s no way I could know for sure, and because that’s just mean/cruel.

  4. Actually I visited with Counselor Snow as a patient. A friend of mine referred her. I was sexually abused at 4yrs and 11 yrs. Did not happen at church. Bottom line visits lasted maybe 6 months. Interesting she brought in a psychologist who was a professor to work with me one time. All memories that came up were not anything I recognized. I did not learn any tools to help me with my PTSD. Years later I ended up seeing the PhD psychologist Snow had brought into one of our sessions.(I had to keep my eyes shut while he was in session with me and Snow
    I did not remember him,but I told him about that ecperience. He apologized to me. He said they did not know how to handle ritual abuse then. He and I went on to have great sessions,learned about my condition,lots of academic papers,lots of homework,probably saw him for 4 years. He aged out of counseling. I was seeing a new counselor and told her my husband and I were building a home up in CaveHollow she said you should read Paper Dolls by Snow about the ritual abuse in the neighborhood. I read the book. Talked to the Bishop and he said we dont talk about that. It’s to harmful. Please do not use my name.

  5. Another product of the Santanic scare is this era was the book, “Jay’s Journal”, a vivid narrative in the form of a “real” journal from a teenage boy from Pleasant Grove, Utah, who got lured into Satanism leading up to his final final journal entry in which he reveals his intent to commit suicide. As it turns out, it was based on the life of a real teenage boy who got involved in drugs, nearly every other aspect of the story was completely fabricated.

  6. Another product of the Santanic scare is this era was the book, “Jay’s Journal”, a vivid narrative in the form of a “real” journal from a teenage boy from Pleasant Grove, Utah, who got lured into Satanism leading up to his final journal entry in which he reveals his intent to commit suicide. As it turns out that although it was based on the life of a real teenage boy who got involved in drugs, nearly every other aspect of the story was completely fabricated by the fame-seeking author.

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