Join us now on Mormon Stories Podcast for an incredibly powerful story on dealing with tragedy with resilience and grace. Jill and Katie Searle are a mother/daughter pair.

Jill Searle’s story (Part 1) includes:

  • Being raised LDS and serving a mission.
  • Entering into a mixed-orientation marriage as a lesbian woman.
  • Having several children.
  • Leaving the church, and finding a committed, long term partner (they were married 5 different times…incredible story).
  • Allowing and even supporting her children to remain active/faithful LDS as a lesbian, ex-Mormon woman, all while the church was waging war on committed LGBT relationships.

Katie Searle’s story (Part 2) includes:

  • Being raised Mormon by an orthodox Mormon father and step-mother, and two lesbian ex-Mormon mothers.
  • Marrying her husband, Nathan Williams.
  • Co-founding with Nathan a globally successful magazine, Kinfolk.
  • Facing the excruciating decision to terminate a pregnancy at 6 months.
  • Dealing with the discovery that her husband, Nathan, is gay, while pregnant with their second child.
  • Deciding with Nathan to end the marriage.
  • Coping with a religious faith crisis through all this.
  • Rebuilding a life and raising her daughter, Vi, as an ex-Mormon single mother.

This is an amazing story of responding to tragedy with grace and resilience.

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  1. Jessica Smiley September 10, 2018 at 12:23 pm - Reply

    Thank you for this episode! Thank you to Jill and Katie Searle for their willingness to be interviewed. I very much relate to Jill’s story. I will actively use her advice on how to raise young children co-parenting with their father who is an active Mormon, and me a former Mormon who is gay. I will have to re-listen to this one in the future I’m sure.

    • Jill L Searle October 6, 2018 at 10:07 pm - Reply

      Thank you for listening and for your kind words. Sounds like we have something in common, life is good. Being true to who you are is making you a better person and a better parent. If you would like to connect please feel free to contact me. You can message me on Facebook and I will be happy to be in touch. xoxo Jill

  2. Ellen Summers September 10, 2018 at 2:08 pm - Reply

    Thanks for sharing your stories. I would encourage you, Katie, to give yourself and Paige Bischoff the recognition on Wikipedia as founders of Kinfolk along with Nathan and Doug. It only lists Nathan and Doug as the founders. Please let people know that women can develop and create meaningful, profitable businesses.

  3. Emily Ojuka September 16, 2018 at 2:46 am - Reply

    Man, I love you two. This was probably one of my favorite episodes. Katie, I am so inspired by you and your beautiful journey. Your story is so much like my own -my former husband came out to me as gay while I was preg too. I feel for you and all that you’ve gone through, and I can’t thank you enough for opening up and being so real. You’re such a force of love. AND Kinsfolk! Thanks for creating such an amazing brand of connection and tribe, and for walking the talk too. You are your mom are bad asses. Sending you the best vibes!

  4. Alan December 6, 2018 at 10:06 am - Reply

    Was a fun surprise to learn Jill lives in the same small Oregon town I do. Unfortunately, I don’t know the family. Powerful and important inteview. Thanks for being vulnerable enough to give it.

    • Jill L Searle December 7, 2018 at 10:57 am - Reply

      Hi Alan,
      Hope our paths cross someday. Maybe on 3rd street or at Winco. :)

  5. Julie August 14, 2020 at 5:27 pm - Reply

    Dear Jill & Katie,

    Thank you for sharing your stories. You two are both strong, amazing women & fine examples of how you should handle situations with dignity & grace. I can’t wait to see if you ( Katie) have any business or projects in the works.

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