Dive into the fascinating story of Jonas Jödicke with John Dehlin and Nemo the Mormon. Born in the church in Germany, Jonas discovered an artistic talent which would lead his work to be adored all over the world. At the same time, Jonas had begun to discover his sexuality and what that would mean for his place in Mormonism.


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  1. David S. Azzolina July 25, 2022 at 3:29 pm - Reply

    I find Jonas so amazingly lovable. My story is somewhat different to his. I left the church behind at 19 or so in the late-1970s when I came out, became an Episcopalian (Anglican) but came back to the the Church in 2019.

  2. Tim July 26, 2022 at 8:08 pm - Reply

    The link to the audio download doesn’t work.

    • Maven July 27, 2022 at 4:21 pm - Reply

      Thank you! It should be fixed now!

  3. Robert Bushman December 30, 2022 at 2:10 pm - Reply

    Though I greatly appreciate Dehlin’s intelligence and the content he brings out, his interview style is suprisingly poor. The best I can suggest is just that he watch his own interviews and I think he’ll get the point.

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