1385: The Legal Case for Mormon Church Fraud – Gaddy vs. the LDS Church
January 14, 2021
Please join me and Radio Free Mormon on Friday, January 15, 2021 at 8am Utah time for a discussion of “Laura A. Gaddy vs. the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” – a class action lawsuit currently before the United States District Court for the District of Utah, with Robert J. Shelby as the Presiding Judge.
The main purpose of the case is as follows: “The case seeks certification as a class action based upon the large number of former Mormons who have been deceived by Defendant COP’s fraud, as a result of the Mormon Corporate Empire’s longstanding coordinated lies and material omissions about its history as well as lies about its use of tithing donations and how it would use that tithing in the future.”
Two of the main documents central to the case can be found here (for your review):
10:32 Reason why the lawyer herself isn’t on, RFM disclaimer
14:35 Difference between religion and something that’s susceptible to fraud
22:57 What can and can’t be on the table?
32:11 Scenario: John starts a religion! :)
36:03 Tom Phillips case in the UK
41:30 Freedom of religion – getting fired for being gay
45:19 Judge Robert Shelby. Qualification of judges
55:23 Original complaint and extension to the amended complaint
1:01:28 Judge’s reasons to dismiss
1:05:22 The amended complaint
1:16:55 Which people are able to be included in the class action part of the lawsuit?
1:21:55 Complaint is about beliefs not being sincerely held
1:26:23 John’s observations of harsh words in the complaint. RFM’s thoughts
1:39:15 Making the extra case responding to the dismissal
1:48:42 Legal name of the church. History of church being incorporated
1:50:54 Quotes from LDS people in the amended complaint on insincerity of beliefs
2:17:17 LDS discussions pointing out church historians being educated as lawyers
2:25:06 Kay Burningham joining. John asking her comments
2:28:00 Kay providing backstory about what happened
2:37:00 John explaining people want their tithing back. Kay’s thoughts
2:43:27 If someone wants to join the case, what do they need to do?
2:48:00 Kay’s thoughts about the case going forward
2:52:30 Kay about the church’s qualifications about her
2:54:35 Are there other legal options for filing a complaint?
2:59:48 RFM complimenting Kay with using John’s faith crisis
3:01:56 Inclusion on how tithes are spent?
3:04:48 LDS bringing up catholic church bringing up transubstantiation
3:07:28 Paying tithing before feed your family
3:08:15 Motion to dismiss vs motion for summary judgement
3:10:43 Kay’s final words
3:17:05 RFM’s thoughts about the lawsuit going forward
3:21:50 FB-comment by an ex-member wanting to get their life back
3:22:54 Closing words