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  1. Thank you for this. As a Canadian I have sincerely wanted to understand why Trump supporters vote for him. I understand more now.

  2. You know, that Joel, was it Joel, who said “If you’re talking about Trump, I’m done, I’m out, I’m unsubscribing, I’m moving across the country from you”? Something like that.

    I have people in my own family, and I’ve known them in places where I worked, whose development is so arrested, they can’t bear hearing voices that disagree with them. Well yes, they can bear arguments over which car is better than what other car, and whether or not you should drill for oil on protected national lands, but when it comes to political candidates, if you disagree with them, they will stomp out of the room, and never want to speak to you again. I’m sorry for them. It’s why we refer to those political brawls around the Thanksgiving table, why we can’t be civil, why, currently, people are trying to burn down the world.

    But I do have one snarky little question that was not asked. The panelist who caught Covid from her son who caught it at school. Surely the child wore a mask at school? I’m among those who have read enough to know that masks do not prevent the spread of viruses, and impart health problems of their own, like reduced blood oxygen and an increased carbon dioxide load, dermatitis from mask usage, harsh carcinogenic chemicals used in the making of the masks, psychological damage to the smallest children who are learning to think that other humans are scary and germy, when we humans have developed robust immunity over thousands of years of exchanging microbes among ourselves by hugging, kissing, shaking hands, eating around a common table, walking and talking together. Oh, how I miss the sanity.

    Bravo, John Dehlin, for thinking of doing these side by side panels. It is a loving thing to do.

    1. Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.

      So why weren’t face masks recommended at the start of the pandemic? At that time, experts didn’t know the extent to which people with COVID-19 could spread the virus before symptoms appeared. Nor was it known that some people have COVID-19 but don’t have any symptoms. Both groups can unknowingly spread the virus to others.

      These discoveries led public health groups to do an about-face on face masks. Mayo Clinic

      1. Thank you Robert. I’m a university professor of virology. It is stunning to me how many times the science and the reason for the “about face” on masks can be explained in clear, unbroken English and people still prefer to see conspiracy theory and boogeymen.

        1. Troy,

          I knew masks worked when the experts said we needed the PPE for hospital staff. I ordered my N95’s in February and was getting funny looks as the only person in the store with a mask. Of course our experts knew masks worked. You did too, right?

  3. I believe we need to make every effort at closing the gulf of misunderstanding the American people have developed over the past 20 to 30 years. This format seems like a good starting point. That being said I must make a comment or two about what I heard today.

    In light of the fact that Republicans have now successfully packed the Supreme Court with conservative Catholics by putting off a vote to replace Justice Scalia for 8 months until after the election and then rushing to confirm Barrett just 10 days before this election I find the hand wringing Republicans now express about Biden possibly packing the court by expanding it to be disingenuous but, sadly, all too typical.

    As for what has happened in places like Seattle and Portland we really don’t know who’s responsible for what in any of those places. That hasn’t stopped Trump and his supporters from assigning blame to everybody that isn’t them. The reason Antifa must exist is because Republicans have repeated the notion ad nauseam. Some evidence beyond Trump tweets would certainly be refreshing on that front. One last thing. For the dude that repeated something about how Antifa burns everything and BLM loots it, yeah, that is racist just so you know.

  4. Too charged of a topic for me to listen to this podcast, but I applaud John Dehlin for his bravery to take on this sensitive topic.

  5. Trump said he passed a private-sector health care program, Veterans Choice, after failed attempts by past presidents for the last “45 years.” That’s not true. The Choice program, which allows veterans to see doctors outside the government-run VA system at taxpayer expense, was first passed in 2014 under President Barack Obama. (From the AP)
    So much that was claimed here just requires a little fact checking. I’m glad that you did these panels, I don’t like cancel culture and we need to make efforts on understanding each other. If we are not talking to each other then we can’t dispel myths that the media at times benefits from.

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