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  1. How do we KNOW that Joseph Smith Sr’s dreams preceded the publication of the Book of Mormon? Is there evidence they were discussed before Lucy mentioned them decades later? Bushman suggests that Lucy herself may have fabricated aspects of the dream to parallel Lehi’s dream in 1 Nephi 8 in order to bolster the status of her husband and make him more like Lehi as the predecessor and father of Nephi/Joseph Jr.

  2. As John Hamer points out oral dictation only seems impressive to us because we’ve never trained ourselves. A 45 year old blind friend is dictating her novel. She’s been at it for about two months and plans to submit the last part of her 400 or so pages to her editor next week. She works on it from 8am until noon five or six days a week. I’ve read parts.. like many books it’s much better written than the BoM. She’s a riveting storyteller by the way..

    John Hamer is excellent!

  3. What about the influence of The Late War and Captain Kidd’s adventures on the content and style of writing of the book of mormon?

  4. This podcast makes it very difficult to distinguish between opinion and referenced fact. Podcasts make it very easy to state an opinion as fact because words float by quickly and the opportunity to ponder them and read references and other sources does not exist. If this podcast truly wishes to be fair and honest, they need to hold themselves to the same standard they hold The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All podcasts need to be transcribed and cross referenced.

  5. Great work John. I think the presentation could have been much shorter, especially for this audience but a good introduction this aspect of BoM authorship.

    My thoughts…

    Why is it assumed if the Book of Mormon was based on Manuscript Found that anyone other than Sidney Rigdon and Joseph had to be involved? Why does the conspiracy have to involve John Whitmer and others? Could Sidney and Joseph have kept the authorship secret to themselves? I think this is a plausible option.

    I agree 100%, the wider the conspiracy theory, the less likely it is to be true but limiting the conspiracy to two people is reasonable to me.

    Also, why limit the basis of BoM to Manuscript Found? Rigdon and Joseph could have gotten influence from multiple sources. I think most people would agree this is likely given all of texts on the topic extant at this time. I think there is basis for a spectrum of sources and scenarios involving Joseph and Sydney. On one end Joseph being influenced by Sydney all the way to Sidney being the primary author. I can see Joseph and Sydney having discussions about the source of the native Americans and various texts of the day on that subject and those discusssions could have included Manuscript Found.

    Ignoring Manuscript Found means that all of the affidavits of all of the wittnesses need to be explained away. It is entirely possible of course that Hurlbut lead all of his witnesses to believe a false memory.

    Joseph writing the BoM on his own is the tidiest solution and certainly satisfies Occam’s Razor but is not the only plausible option.

  6. I disagree vehemently with your graphic that the Book of Mormon is not very impressive. It is extremely impressive. You couldn’t write the likes of it in a short amount of time it a long amount of time. Just because you hate everything related to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints doesn’t give you the right to disrespect something so very important to millions of people. You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion. As am I. My comment is given with love and respect.

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