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  1. I thoroughly enjoyed Part 1 with Dr. Dave. Hearing details of a Mission President Train Wreck is better than the reality TV shows I never watch. (I stopped watching TV ~7 years ago.)

    This Part 2 is the only Mormon Stories podcast that I did not finish … due to lack of interest or natural engagement with my psyche. The content is probably very appropriate for a Masters Thesis, but I turned it off after about 45 minutes. Maybe it’s because I am an engineer with little interest in abstract sociology theories. (That’s probably an incorrect description of the content.)

    I would like to hear if others enjoyed the podcast, and if others are in my same boat and turned it off.

    1. I found the discussion very interesting and pertinent to what Mormon stories is all about. With out this in mind the podcasts are just gossip or interesting stories. Using this as a foundation, we can find solutions and how to best serve and assist people in their journey and how to avoid heartache.

    2. I completely disagree. I thought this podcast was extremely interesting. It’s probably one of my favorite episodes yet. Lots of food for thought here. I was thinking about the recent “chairgate” (Kate Kelly vs. Sunstone–luckily peacefully resolved) kerfuffle on facebook, and how a lack of these community-affirming conservative values can create conflict in the progressive/liberal/post Mormon world. Good ideas about balance and bridging gaps.

      1. Alison,

        I am glad to hear you really enjoyed Part 2.

        I attribute my comparative lack of interest to my intellectual shallowness and spiritual superficiality.

        Maybe I should call the missionaries and undo my exmo status. Sounds like I am overqualified for membership.

        1. I enjoyed it too — it gave me a lot of things to think about, but I’m willing to admit that maybe it’s because I have lots of interest in “abstract sociology theories” and not so much in engineering, probably just because I’m at least a little bit mathematically challenged 🙂

          …But maybe you shouldn’t sell yourself short, Gary. The fact that you can poke a little fun at yourself indicates that you might not be as “shallow” and “superficial” as you think, especially since at some point you apparently had the intellectual and spiritual capacity to walk away in the first place.


    3. I just turned it off with 40 minutes left. Sorry but episode one I too found to be extremely enjoyable. Part two just did not resonate with me.

    4. I have not finished listening to it but I have to say it’s difficult to follow if you’re not watching the video (which is something John highlighted at the beginning of the podcast). That said, I tried following and got hooked when Dr. Christian explained why the believing spouse will go into Mormon “overdrive” when there is disbelief in the marriage. He literally described my situation with my wife and I think this is what being in transition is all about: to understand the psyche of both parties and how you can overcome the hurdles based on clinical evidence and what others (especially counselors and psychologists) know, as opposed to me trying to make sense of it all without furthering my anger at the church or my wife.

  2. I found this podcast fascinating. To me this is exactly what Mormon stories is all about. Without this as a baseline, the podcast is just gossip or interesting stories. This provides answers of how to serve individuals and help organizations recognize how to improve outreach to all groups. By practicing these principles we can help individuals avoid additional heartache. I found it to be very objective and with no other underlying destructive tones.

  3. I, too, found this podcast interesting and useful. Living in a scientific community as I do, it was helpful for me personally in my interaction with the Los Alamos Faith and Science Forum, which is comprised of various church groups from a wide spectrum of belief and scientific backgrounds. Specifically, I found David Christian’s counsel to first familiarize oneself with a group’s purpose before trying to suggest changes. That one suggestion has helped me reign in my propensity to want to change things too quickly. Thanks, Doc Dave!

  4. I loved this episode. I have never commented, although I listen faithfully. Perhaps it’s my Canadianism that this speaks to, but I really appreciated hearing that even seemingly ‘opposing’ sides have so much to offer. I agree with zoo and Eugene. I think this is a really important episode in terms of application. I think listening to each other, trying to see each other’s individual points of view, and making the most of our strengths as a group is so helpful and healing. Thanks so much for this great episode. More of this!

  5. I hope your lobbying for climate protection includes reducing animal agriculture and meat consumption, considering that is one of the leading causes of climate change. And since you believe in climate protection, I assume you are also vegetarian.

  6. I really enjoyed both episodes. I found the differences in the six moral foundations between conservative and liberal very interesting, as well as how a sense of a healthy community is vital for our country. Thanks for sharing!

  7. Here are two links to a document entitled “Principles of Unification” by JJ Dewey. These principles may provide a “Mission Statement” of sorts for a group or community based on common moral beliefs.

    This link is to the document written in language adapted to those who may be aethiest or agnostic. http://www.freeread.com/archives/2975.html

    This link is to the document written for those who have a belief in God. http://www.freeread.com/principles-of-unification/

  8. Thank for this podcast. I found this information to be enlightening and helpful and not boring at all. I almost didn’t listen because of some previous comments, but I really enjoyed the presentation and I feel it will help me to have a more balanced approach when dealing with family and friends who think differently from me.

  9. I appreciate the constructive nature of this episode. Thank you Dave and John for addressing a problem that I have struggled with for the last ten years as one who has left the Mormon church. The solutions you offer for “bridging the divide” and forming community, although difficult, are valuable… and applicable to post-Mormons, liberals, and anyone transitioning out of conservative/fundamental religions. I will be listening to this podcast again.

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