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  1. A very interesting podcast.

    Did one of the panel actually say “I would have slept with Joseph….”? HA! I laughed out loud! Fantastic! JSJ wouldn’t have passed up that deal. You’d have had to marry him first though.

    Also, what specifically do you find inspiring about the book of mormon? How is it anything but a constant unimaginative drumbeat of “believe in your own inadequacy, so that the atonement (a solution in search of a problem) can save you”? Where does it EVER teach “trust yourself!”?

    In the end for us in industrialized lands of opportunity, doesn’t it all come down to how well we use our resources? Peep stones and sexy JSJ are fun to talk about, but we can make a difference in the lives of the less fortunate. When I can I attempt to push the institution to fulfill it’s “true religion” promise. Otherwise the institution isn’t worthy of my attention.

    Not your regular sunday school fair. Well done guys!


  2. I had to quit listening when Jane started talking about how she might have considered the fundamental life and polygamy. Clearly she knows absolutely nothing about the horrors of modern day polygamy and the spousal and child abuse that is endemic in those communities.

    1. I agree. The author appears to believe that Joseph Smith was an abusive liar his whole life, abusing Emma in the worst ways with polygamy.

      When actually, Joseph constantly told the truth about polygamy, preaching that it was always the evil whoredom that Christ and the Book of Mormon Prophets said it was. He testified over and over that he never lived it or believed in it. And he warned the Saints to not fall for the rumors that he did.

      But sadly it seems most people would rather believe perverse hearsay, even about prophets, than the righteous truth.

      Joseph warned that all those who fall for polygamy will be damned. But few listened to him, then or now. Most leaders of the Church back then fell for polygamy and threatened the women to go along with it, saying that if they didn’t they wouldn’t make it to heaven. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

      Even today most everyone in the Church, including all leaders, appear to easily be deceived to believe in polygamy and the vile rumors and hearsay that Joseph Smith lived it, when there is no proof of it, only solid proof that Joseph valiantly preached & fought against it continually.

  3. This is why the Church seems to be stagnant, if not in decline. It’s because they run from the core identity and uniqueness of all things Mormon, and what we have to day is a Mormonism 2.0, corporate and sterile. Modern Mormonism is not very inspiring. I think Mormonism could get a restart if they came out with a few “thus sayeth the Lord” prophecies, and worked their way back to the fundamentals.

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